Player Complaint against Chefferz

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Lorker wrote: My imput on this situation is they did an extremely similar situation to me and Solace to the point where they started to get Solace the player to start harrassing me on discord and steam to the point I blocked them and Now outright AVOID both players ICly if possible. Literally started all this bullshit IC drama, started to treat me like extra shit ICly, then gets another player to attack me and plays the "I'm a victim card" and then when I happen to ahelp something that they happened to be involved in they fucking would scream "METAGRUDINGING!!!! YOU ARE METAGRUDGING REEEEEEEE" And then abuses Ahelps and then gets their circle jerk of friends in on said ahelps to get me constantly harrassed by fucking admins for "metagruding" Cuz I would say no to them trying to ordershit from cargo when I work in the cargo department. Cuz half the time Sec would clean out the points, or exploration weould at the start of the shift then they'd come up trying to order something usless like crate that only has a medical jacket, a medical belt and a jumpsuit for like 20 points when all I have in cargos coffers is 30 points. And when I say no as the cargo personnel they scream at me more for metagrudging.

My position on this situation is that they have to have THEIR fun THEIR way and if you prevent it you are a threat to them and they will attmept to use ties to admins to get their way or they attempt to get masses of people to harrass someone when they can't get an admin to force someone to bend to their will.

For example, when they work in cargo the hack the console and buy a bunch of illegal shit and try to force others in the department to partake in the illegal shit, starting the whole "fuck science all the mats are ours" meta we had, and grow extremely hostile when called out for having illegal shit on them. To the point on shift they literally started to assult me for calling out Solace for having a bluespace harpoon as a shaft miner and starting to assualt me infront of security cuz security was arresting solace for having contraband. But at the same time if they worked as a sec personnel the INSTANT something hinted to contraband in supply they'd be breaking down the fucking door and searching everything cuz they aren't the one ordering contraband or its not someone they know OOC It's magically illegal to order again.

And yes I've Ahelped several times complaints against Ana icly and 9/10 the only admin on when I do ahelp things is Zeronetalpha who's stated to me OOC they have zero ties to Ana and only interact with them ICly to try to paint themselves to me as a "unbiased" admin, but as Ana has stated before they they are friends with them OOC thus making the "unbias" part highly unlikely. And when I Ahelp with Zero as the admin most of the times I get BS answers to my ahelps like, "Seend me screen shots of the accusations" While they are currently happening in active round, or, "Stop abusing Ahelp to metagrudge", Or my favorite one of them all, "Each characters have personality traits and quirks that make them different just like real life people, not everyone is going to get along and because you don't like them isn't a reason to Ahelp" And at the same time there is a Citadel Caviat literally stating "DON'T BE A DICK" which Ana seems to violate anytime she cant get her dick wet.
You would purposely stop bringing up materials to cargo because you disagreed with how cargo was running when I was quartermaster, and took your bias against me and applied it by never giving cargo any materials as a miner. When I hacked the proto lathe I was utilizing permits which were one hundred percent authorized, and validated by any head that was relevant to the situation. Points were not overspend. There would always be a balance for legitimate things, and stupid stuff was not ordered. 

Solace is their own person, and they approached you over your constant hostile attitude towards me that they witnessed on a constant basis. BlackMajor is fully aware of he situation between me and you and I've never gone out of my way to fuck you over, or treat your characters like shit despite our disagreement, yet you'd constantly do petty and annoying things like a helping situations in a vein attempt to get me Banned  ZeroNetAlpha was well aware of the situation too.

You just admitted that you go out of your way to ahelp ic things, and do so on a consistant basis to look for any and every way to get rid of me. And yes if I worked as security personnel and there wasn't the permits established then it's not considered authorized to order said contraband crates? Nobody would ever take the time to establish a permit and manifest contents for security and science. There was absolutely never a time I told science the mats are ours, there was a issue where people would hoard the mats to get a KHI nif when it was first added to the console, however. Not to mention the only sellable materials are photon and platinum anyway. Which arent used for anything other than selling to cargo and for spare phoron for medbay. 

I'm not getting into the details of our personal affairs with Solace, but again, multiple attempts were given to work out things IC to which BlackMajor can attest happened. 90% of what you're complaining about on here is also based on ic interactions from well over a month and a half ago. You're, again, slinging anything against the wall you can in order to stick.

You're well known for screaming in ALL CAPS LOCK CONSTANTLY when on comms and people are refusing to listen to your advise. You'd constantly try to interject in scenes with me and Solace in an attempt to drum up some semblance of am argument with you, and then would constantly threaten to commit suicide when told by third parties that you're acting ridiculous. Your whole general demeanor made me not want to interact with you IC. And at no point did I say a word to you OOC. The only time I had a genuine issue was when you started harassing Solace to the point they talked to you on discord, and were denying cargo materials out of spite purely because I was the quartermaster, along with ghosting me and a helping people who I would be sceneing with in attempt to get them in trouble somehow for not doing their job,, or even doing things such as harassing a cyborg for invalid reasons when you knew it was hanging in cargo by giving it petty orders as a ce, or telling the cyborgs to come to you then dismissing them when they arrive.
I've never "gave petty orders to borgs" or "tell them to come to me and dismissing them when they arrive" Also, I never harrased Solace ICly and there was one time I didn't give mats to cargo as a shaft miner and not cuz it was to spite you it was cuz I was pseicifcally asked ICly by another player to get them mats, but you seem to always omit parts of your stories or twist them to fit your narrative. 


Also you don't seem to understand that I play more then just Ahra, who by nature is supposed to be a hot blooded character, Unathi are known commonly to be short tempered quick to start yelling and fighting, seriously they fucking nuked their own planet into the stone age for fucks sake. Their first contact with humans was "Kill them all cuz they offended us" and started a huge fucking war over a minor disagreement. And I don't "interject" in 'scenes' with you and solace out of the first time that I was originally planning to spend time with solace talk about things ICly and what not but then found out that Solace was having a 'scene' with you while attempting to do the thing and was like well if this was what they want I guess I can work with this, then you were like no, and I was like what ever then you started to spread bull shit around the sstation of me 'treatening suicide' or 'emotionally manipulation of people' When the last time I've suicided on ahra was on main PRE RP server being a thing, as blackmajor can attest.

and I didn't admit to going out of my way to Ahelp things against you as a form of metagrudging like you are implying, I stated there are times you do things that I feel are a vilation of citadels overarching rules, and you just claim its metagrudging cuz again. I'm a 'threat' to your definition of fun and you have it in your head that I'm out to get you banned when my goal is more along the lines, Of cut your shit and stop being a dick. But apparently you intentionally going out of your way to be an ass and ruining others peoples fun doesn't fall under Rule one, Don't grief, "Griefing is deliberately irritating or angering another player using aspects of the game in unintended ways."

And I never Harrased Solace, ever, case and point. YOU kept making them take you while vored into them to talk to me when I've told them Several times ICly and OOCly to keep you the fuck away from me. Cuz you literally have the emense desire to ruin anything that you don't agree with IE Prax, you didn't like Prax and started a HUGE bitch fit about it ICly and OOCly, Then started to sling shit and throw the player of Prax into the mud to prove your "superiority" And with your ban appeal when you relaized who infact the actual player of Prax was you IMMEDIATELY back pedaled in DMs to be like "OH I DIDN;'T MEAN TO BE A DICK TO YOU SPECIFICALLY I LIKE YOU! PLEASE IM SORRY FORGIVES ME" Just like you how you consitsantly threw my name into the fucking mud as Ahra to prove your "superiority" to me. Like I Honestly don't give a flying fuck you are doing things with solace, Literally when I first interacted with solace it was mostly because they tought me how to set up the tesla on Main, and then they were ditched and left alone in engineering and I was OOC like, well I fell bad that the were ditched by their supposed friends, I'll hand out with them I guess, It was more of a no one should have to be alone on a server where lots of people tend to make pairs. I full heartedly expected Solace to actually find a more stable RP partner to play with I was more or less acting like a inbetween person. Like I already had two people I consistantly interacted with all the time.

And you still interact with me, though its more of a Forced thing on my end as I'm told I /HAVE/ to interact with you. All because you don't know all of my characters I play doesn't mean All of my characters are Ahra. But you seem to have the inability to disassociate the player from the character. Do I think you should be repimaded in some way for being a constant shitter going out of your way to ruin fun for people? Yes. Do I think it should be a Permaban? No. Would I like to see you get permabanned? Definitely, but then again it's because I fell like Ana Bowchief isn't a character on a roleplaying game but a true reflection of who you actually are since you seem inable to disassociate player from character.

Also I never ghost you, Why would I even ghost you? I'm not petty like you to ghost someone just to shit talk them in LOOC. And I only "denied" cargo their mats once, cuz as I stated before someone asked me to get them the mats, sine people like you were all like "hoard all the platinum for ingots cuz fuck the rest of the station needing plasteel." And then at the same time asks robotics to make your miners Ripley's and Golephers, What what plasteel? And I don't go out of my way to Ahelp the people you are fucking, I only Ahelp agaisnt Crowby that one time cuz, "Borg there is no science there are solar grubs in science open the door to science" "Yeah no I'm in the middle of ERPing with a visitor Fuck of engineer." Something tells me that in the basic NT lawset that there are laws that the borg has to follow, including but not limited to protecting the station, solargrubs not ordered by xenobiology via fax to CC are threats to the station, and Serveing the crew in acrodence to their rank and role, Engineer's order vs a visitor's order. Hmmmmmmm I wonder who has the more Rank consindering how ONE isn't even technically crew.

So any more naratives you want to paint without using all of the colors, or hide the bigger picture from people to be like "Look here lorker is a shitter! His opinion means nothing. I've done no wrong ever." And If you want to talk about being "known" for doing things ICly you CONSTANTLY made false reports of missing person of people you vored, constantly shit talk people over common channels, with the validation of "So and so said to do it OOCly." You are also constantly known to have extreme bias ICly towards anyone you've had any minor negative altercation with and when you are a dective and get a sniff in the air of something that can be illegal you grab and pull at any string you can just to bring them, assuming you aren't just fucking borgs, You are also known to constantly get contraband, and claim "hey look I made this sheet of paper that makes it legal now cuz tee hee I as the QM can make papers that over rule the requlations of my employers that are to be inforced at all times." Or then there are the times when I'm a miner and you are literally ordering me to take contraband you ordered wtih the materials I've miued single handedly, and when I don't you assume there is something wrong with me ICly, cuz I want nothing to do with your joy rides of illegal shit.

At the end of the day you want to claim that some people's records make no sense for them to get employed and what not on a RP server while you your self, though its not in any employment, security, or medical records, go out of your way and do things that would get people fired all the damned time. So how about before you start playing the 'Look they are sooo bad they do these bad things how are they even working here' card, how about you take a nice long look and the shit you do all the time.

Also, just going to put this out there, but this isn't the first time every you've been reported/repremanded for being a toxic person, with the exact same arguments being made against as they were then it's just I'm not a "active face of the Citadel RP community" So my opinions on anything mean literally nothing to the vast majority of what's going on at all. You have a history spanning over a year of being a shitty person on two spereate servers, I just have an unathi prone to outbursts and is claimed to be a "shitty person, by you and your circle jerk group of metacomm using buddies.
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RE: Player Complaint against Chefferz

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You continue to bring up when I vored two willing people, almost three months ago, willingly, and RPed that I didn't know what happened. The only time I've ever vored someone and kill them (because they asked me to do it)

Playing a character prone to outbursts then wondering why that behavior isn't coddled is why I do not enjoy interacting with you and avoided you, but you continue finding ways to sling shit at me despite zero interaction.

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So much salt. Many wow.

First and foremost my opinion is that Raiq, themself, is not a shitter. Ana is annoying at times, prone to outbursts, screeching over Common, and sometimes is off ERPing when you need them. They toe the line for powergaming maybe? But that's a constant issue for everyone who knows what a decent amount of jobs do. Their behavior could be toned down a bit, but that's more of an IC concern than something worthy of a full on player complaint.
Shitter no, annoying and unlikeable up to the observer.

I'm not even gonna touch anything else I'm not involved in, so. Addressing the actual complaint made by Konigsegg.

The behavior you describe isn't toxic. Straight up not. Annoying, and distracting, but no, not toxic. Often I just go to Ana when people complain about it (as the Hoss, usually) and ask her to take it someplace else, or to stop. And for the most part they do. Problem solved. For continually making announcements over Common, for example about a blood drive at Medical, that's a legitimate reason to use the Common channel?

The worst I've seen Ana do with a wheelchair is use it to zoom around the station at the speed of sound, but I haven't seen her do that for awhile. Again, they sometimes toe the line for powergaming but this is an issue for anyone who can do jobs that they think aren't being done. So, unless you give other examples, I'm not really seeing it.
I have personally brought up my conundrums with them playing Ana as a borg and not as a borg, but that's not something you mention.


Calling out people going to the dorms is an IC issue. If you don't like people pointing out you're going to the Dorms then don't get caught. Simple as that. If you doubly so don't want to be called out as being in the Dorms, then don't play a job, or play a job that nobody gives a shit if leaves. Not Medical, Security, Engineering. These three departments always will and always do have work to do because of how the game functions and how people play their characters.
Threatening violence (with explosives no less) for most things will get you arrested anyway.


Also as to your second reply, for posterity:
Silicons. Are. Sentient. Beings. The only restrictions they have on their behaviors are Laws. Ana was on the Paladin lawset. She respected the authority of the Security Commander (her 'direct superior') and proceeded to arrest you, 'protecting the innocent' from a potential threat. That threat being explosive, and directed at one of the station's Silicons.

And no. I'm not going to respond to the rest of this thread as frankly a lot of it is bullshit, on either side, or something I tried addressing before.

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M'kay, this is a thing that's being brought up again.

If you have such a problem with me "harassing" you, make a complaint about me instead of talking about me here, got the receipts for you already, our last conversations before I was blocked: https://pastebin.com/EFwVH86Z


And also maybe stop being such a hypocrite.

"Unathi are known commonly to be short tempered quick to start yelling and fighting"

"you seem inable to disassociate player from character."

:thinking:


Anyway, not gonna derail the thread about how much of a biased grudge and unreliable account you have, and will just leave it at that.

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This discussion is not about what she did in the past, but that she toed the line by praxs situation.

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raiq wrote:
Not to mention the only sellable materials are photon and platinum anyway. Which arent used for anything other than selling to cargo and for spare phoron for medbay.
I usually give science a stack of phoron when I deliver materials, since that usually lasts them the entire shift, and on occasion I'll keep one for mining to generate power for the recharging station in case of emergencies. You can compress raw platinum into Osmium, which is used for some of the high-end mech equipment. Smelted platinum is only useful for selling, though.

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SoManyLayers wrote:
raiq wrote:
Not to mention the only sellable materials are photon and platinum anyway. Which arent used for anything other than selling to cargo and for spare phoron for medbay.
I usually give science a stack of phoron when I deliver materials, since that usually lasts them the entire shift, and on occasion I'll keep one for mining to generate power for the recharging station in case of emergencies. You can compress raw platinum into Osmium, which is used for some of the high-end mech equipment. Smelted platinum is only useful for selling, though.
Not relevant to the topic, please don't throw it off

If you have your own complaints against chefferz. Make an seperate complaint

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