Whitelist Server Permaban
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:21 pm
BYOND Name: Leon962
Reason Banned: De-Whitelisted: Ban ordered by: Kersakof (Muffet), As a Captain, butchered a miner and mime for refusing orders and refusing to get scanned. Mime tried to keep a miner away from being scanned after saying they didn't want to, Captain tried to force them being scanned multiple times, and then they threatend the mime's life with no prior punishment. Recommend de-whitelisting and possibly a headban.
Admin who banned:dickydeck
Length banned: permanent
Appeal Reason: I believe that this ban is overly harsh, plain and simple. That I fucked up and deserve a punishment, I will not argue. But a permanent ban, when the issue is escalation, seems to be a bit too much. I also fail to see where attempting to forcescan our only miner with 5 people on is an issue. And when the mime twice refuses a direct order, I, and Kersakof who first messaged me, agree that they should be punished for it. At the time of the fight, the only nonlethal weapon I had, my energy gun, was nearly out of charge, which I could see. My only choice there was to ask the mime to come with me to the brig, which given their history of refusing orders they would have no doubt refused, or else physical punishment. In either case, I very much doubted that Wolfy, who she'd spent the entire shift with, wouldn't have interfered in the mime's favor. In that situation, what was I to do? One pair of cuffs, a sword, and my egun with enough energy for three disablers versus a miner and a mime, with a KA amost certainly and a crusher.
Neglected was me healing Wolfy with a legion core, right before she started repeatedly tabling me and kicking me. I didn't want to kill her, or the mime, but if I didn't act in self-defense, I would have been killed instead. I killed them both down after, which may have been over the line, but at the time I was still freaking out a bit at having to fight two people in close quarters. Immediately after, I brought the both of them to cloning, though both refused scans. I didn't just kill them out of nowhere, and throw their bodies onto lava, I brought them to medical as soon as I reasonably could, and started trying to fix them.
In short, I agree that I fucked up, but gives the situation, my lack of supplies, and the fact I was outnumbered, I believe I started the fight fairly. I agree that I need to be punished for fucking up, but a de-whitelisting and a headban seems to be WAY too excessive for my first offense, in my opinion. If my opinion matters here at all, I would be perfectly fine with a headban, a ban from security, and possibly a three day ban.
If it were possible to bring a log of the round in, that would be wonderful.
Reason Banned: De-Whitelisted: Ban ordered by: Kersakof (Muffet), As a Captain, butchered a miner and mime for refusing orders and refusing to get scanned. Mime tried to keep a miner away from being scanned after saying they didn't want to, Captain tried to force them being scanned multiple times, and then they threatend the mime's life with no prior punishment. Recommend de-whitelisting and possibly a headban.
Admin who banned:dickydeck
Length banned: permanent
Appeal Reason: I believe that this ban is overly harsh, plain and simple. That I fucked up and deserve a punishment, I will not argue. But a permanent ban, when the issue is escalation, seems to be a bit too much. I also fail to see where attempting to forcescan our only miner with 5 people on is an issue. And when the mime twice refuses a direct order, I, and Kersakof who first messaged me, agree that they should be punished for it. At the time of the fight, the only nonlethal weapon I had, my energy gun, was nearly out of charge, which I could see. My only choice there was to ask the mime to come with me to the brig, which given their history of refusing orders they would have no doubt refused, or else physical punishment. In either case, I very much doubted that Wolfy, who she'd spent the entire shift with, wouldn't have interfered in the mime's favor. In that situation, what was I to do? One pair of cuffs, a sword, and my egun with enough energy for three disablers versus a miner and a mime, with a KA amost certainly and a crusher.
Neglected was me healing Wolfy with a legion core, right before she started repeatedly tabling me and kicking me. I didn't want to kill her, or the mime, but if I didn't act in self-defense, I would have been killed instead. I killed them both down after, which may have been over the line, but at the time I was still freaking out a bit at having to fight two people in close quarters. Immediately after, I brought the both of them to cloning, though both refused scans. I didn't just kill them out of nowhere, and throw their bodies onto lava, I brought them to medical as soon as I reasonably could, and started trying to fix them.
In short, I agree that I fucked up, but gives the situation, my lack of supplies, and the fact I was outnumbered, I believe I started the fight fairly. I agree that I need to be punished for fucking up, but a de-whitelisting and a headban seems to be WAY too excessive for my first offense, in my opinion. If my opinion matters here at all, I would be perfectly fine with a headban, a ban from security, and possibly a three day ban.
If it were possible to bring a log of the round in, that would be wonderful.