[Main] - Permaban for no good reason.

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nyaakuza
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[Main] - Permaban for no good reason.

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BYOND Name:
Nyaakuza

Reason Banned:
I would personally, argue, there was no good reason to do this.

Admin who banned:
Kevinz000

Length Banned:
Forever

Appeal Reason:
I would like to preface here that I apologize for my remarkably poor first impression. My more recent experiences with SS13 servers have been the questionable quality of Yogs and Hippie, which tend to have strange administrative enforcement (or in the case of the latter, lack thereof) at times.

Very first day on the server I received a substantial AdminPM from Kevinz000 telling me I'm a a potential threat and on a strictly negative watch-list before I even had a chance to try to see what sort of community this is and whether or not I might fit in. My very first note on the server was, admittedly, bad. The reason for it was my misunderstanding in being brand new to the server without a good feel of what was expected of my role in comparison to what I was used to on other servers.
Started mindshielding shiftstart with little justification behind it. Warned for powergaming. Their reason was "paranoia". They need credible threats to do so.
Ordering mindshields as acting quartermaster (I was merely a cargo tech and asked HoP for access) and then implanting my coworker was a habit from far more hectic servers where such paranoia is required to survive, and I've done no "powergaming" since -- not that it was long ago enough for this yo have any meaningful weight yet.

My third note shouldn't have been made at all. This is the note in its entirety (as I can see it):
over the past few days i've noticed you've been really doing nothing in game but being what i'd call a bad meme, running around naked and annoying people in general while doing absolutely nothing that contributes to your jobs in the majority of the rounds i've observed. i'm putting it here now that if you want to do this, roll assistant. stop wasting slots. while we do not normally bwoink for incompetence you've crossed the line from not even being half-decent at your job to downright round-after-round negligence of basic duties. do your job and act like a normal character, or play assistant and go meme with people who are more tolerant of it rather than dragging down departments.
I feel very strongly that this is an entirely preemptive and heavy-handed note that really doesn't give me a fair shake at all. Whether my behavior was "meme" or not, the admin in the note itself says "we don't usually bwoink for this," and it's absolutely unfair to note me for it - especially considering the size of the note and how much weight it carries as a result. This not only makes it harder for me to prove myself, but puts every other admin on high alert for anything I might do and can result in future bwoinks becoming much heavier as a result... like this following note for a PDA message.
Ooc in IC "BANBAITING" over pda. Warned.
It was a joke that I should have either not said or said in LOOC, and the context was that someone in a command role was daring someone over comms to come onto bridge and fight them. As far as I can tell, the player that I sent the message to didn't ahelp it, this was something the admin took upon themselves to bwoink me for. Why? Because of my massive note from earlier. If it weren't for that note, I wouldn't have this note.

When I connect today, after having done seemingly nothing at all (from my perspective), I received another adminPM from someone asking me if I know what the account "phonyname" is. I've started to feel inclined to assume the reasoning for this question is the belief that I may have been multikeying. To clarify, I have a sticky-as-fuck Comcast IP and while I do use a VPN from time to time it has never been for malicious purposes. I would hope for my own sake that I would not have a sudden case of exceptional stupidity to try any ban dodging when I've already been on a watchlist in the first place.

As for what's led up to this post today, here's my conversation with the banning administrator.

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I'm going to try my best to make an discussion here that doesn't sound like the ramblings of an insane person.

I've been through hell on multiple servers at this point. Every time I've gotten in trouble I've let my emotions get the better of me and it's only ever made things worse. While I'm doing my best as an individual to improve that aspect of myself, I can't unburn bridges and certainly cannot take back a lot of what I've said. I am not here for any malicious purpose, I would just want to play the game and hopefully find some form of community that I can be a part of for more than five days before being thrown out.

I could have been dishonest. I probably could have used a different CKey and logged in with a VPN my first time here and not had all this. I would rather not be a dishonest person however. I would rather not be that person that could never prove to themselves that things could be better. Frankly I'd be even more constantly paranoid that I would be outed in some way and then justifiably "admin discretion" banned for being sneaky about it... and given the events that have transpired thus far, it's a pretty valid fear.

I'm not trying to play the pity card, but I would be remiss if I didn't again mention that I'm a crazy, unstable human being that has trouble fitting in. I'm banned from so many servers in the first place because I couldn't socialize in such a way that was productive to the round and just learned to react to what was happening and what seemed to be the correct method of handling issues (like mindshield implanting cargo techs as soon as possible). This is why I chanced a potential fit in this server - to learn how to play SS13 that isn't instant valid hunting, incessant greytiding and metagaming. Again, trying not to play the victim card, but being on high alert from day one just to be banned on day 5 after being told repeatedly how shit of a person I am is kind of shit. Being told on day 1 "I am watching everything you say and do because you have a history." does not really encourage a positive mindset towards that goal of being believed that I want to be better, nor does it feel I'm even welcomed to try to be.

All I want is a chance to settle in and actually become part of a community. I'm hardly in a position to demand anything, I'm just asking nicely that you please give me something resembling an actual chance before telling me to fuck off.

Light edit:
My behavior and conversation in the discord doesn't reflect how I play the game. I shitpost a lot.

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Re: [Main] - Permaban for no good reason.

Post by kevinz000 »

Okay first, put the actual ban reason, not what you think it is.
Second, regarding the second note, I gave you that talk after you had racked up two (!!) notes, one of which makes me think you didn't read the rules at all.
Third, the third note is after I've told you to take the game more seriously.
Those are staying.

Your ban has been lowered to a day following consultation with a retired staffmember as well a current staffmember. Prove the other servers that removed you wrong, and have a nice day.

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Re: [Main] - Permaban for no good reason.

Post by nyaakuza »

kevinz000 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:57 am
Okay first, put the actual ban reason, not what you think it is.
You mean one-for-one copy and paste the ban reason? It's in the screenshot. If you're talking about the title of the thread... you wrote me out a gigantic paragraph that won't fit in it.

Second, regarding the second note, I gave you that talk after you had racked up two (!!) notes, one of which makes me think you didn't read the rules at all.
How do I already have two notes before my second note? That's mathematically and logically impossible. You had that "talk" (read: lecture) with me after one note. It was a bad note, but it stands on its own without needing a paragraph to back it up. Everyone here knows how bad breaking into a dorm is (except me at the time, but I do now so let's just leave it alone).

Third, the third note is after I've told you to take the game more seriously.
No, the third note is after a huge lecture from you telling me vague nonsense and how shit of a person you think I am. I never broke into any area again, and that's the only behavior I was noted on. If you don't like other things I'm doing, I'd appreciate you being more specific.

Your ban has been lowered to a day
You and I both know this is more than just a ban appeal. Read my entire post, look at the context of it, read what I'm trying to say.

Prove the other servers that removed you wrong, and have a nice day.
I would if I could, but you don't seem to be willing to give me a chance and every interaction we have (including this one) supports that opinion.

I have to ask, how many players have actually complained about me? Have enough people really complained about me that it's worth putting me on heavy watch, noting me incessantly and doing everything in your power to find reason to ban me?

And furthermore, what behavior of mine that I had exhibited on the day of this ban was worthy of a ban? What did I do? What have I done? What do you WANT me to do? Why did you, Kevin, explicitly ask to handle me personally? You are making this look more and more like you have a personal grudge for me and I'm not liking the way this is going. Even if I "shape up" to the expectations of the server, there's no guarantee I'll ever meet YOUR expectations, and it's completely at your discretion whether I get to play or not when you can personally request to handle me every time.

I'm not sure what your end goal here is, but mine is pretty simple. I just want to play the game, I just want you to let me play the game. If there's something more you need to discuss then please just mention it here instead of waiting for the next time I accidentally say "round" instead of "shift" so you can bwoink me for how shit of a player I am again and ban me.

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