Note Appeal : Chefferz

[raiq]

BYOND Name: Chefferz

Reason Noted:  Validhunting as cook withut having done their job, attacked and detained someone unprovoked for making space lube, allegedly, whilst calling for sec. There was an existing sec presence. / Kept AHELPING to dispute the previous ticket by jade, despite being told several times to stop and take the issue to the forum complaint section. Rule 3 violation.
 
Admin who noted:  Jademanique/Raeschen


Appeal Reason:


That note is worded in a very poor manner. I was doing my job the entire shift,I even did my optional objective in the very beginning, and while I was in chemistry trying to make mutadone, I witnessed an assistant, Megan Quinn, break into chemistry, steal the SSD chemist's ID card, and start making space lube grenades/space lube. I went in and tabled them, after witnessing that, while calling Sec, and threw away the lube stuff. As security was en route, Megan kept trying to disposal me, then started throwing glass tiles at me. There was no "allegedly" as I fully witnessed the lube being made, and also had been doing my job all shift as per the screenshot below. I even completed my objective. This note is worded in a manner that makes it seem like I did nothing that shift, and specifically went out of my way to "validhunt" when that was not the case. I witnessed, in front of my face, someone about to make a ton of lube grenades (they had 1 already made and the spray bottle full), in an area I was already going to access and had been all shift, and steal a chemist's ID, and attempt to run in the process. I was then noted again for "rule 3 violation" when telling them that I had been, clearly, doing my entire job this shift, and there was no "allegedly" making space lube, I saw it entirely.

Also the "detained" was me disarming them of the stolen chemist ID so they couldn't run.




Your optional objective: Personally deliver at least 6 stewed soy meats to Centcom

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[Sylas]

You started grabbing and disarming them first, from what I saw in logs, and the bit about you abandoning you job to validhunt is because I saw nothing on the counter when I'd checked, there were only that produce on the botany counter. I dont appreciate being hounded both through ahelps and discord ferverously.

Im usually the first person to be lenient, hell, I wasnt sure about noting you to begin with, and asked other online staff whether it was the right call or not before I did.

[Raeschen]

I wasn't involved in the first thing, but if an admin performs a ruling you disagree with, you gotta come here. you ahelped several times after being asked to stop, and rule 3 kinda says admins have the final say in this.

As for valid-hunting, i mean, what you did and what jade says you did are things that rule 10 says not to do.

Admins make notes based on what they see. It might not be in line with what you saw but unfortunately, points of view are a thing.

[raiq]

You started grabbing and disarming them first, from what I saw in logs, and the bit about you abandoning you job to validhunt is because I saw nothing on the counter when I'd checked, there were only that produce on the botany counter. I dont appreciate being hounded both through ahelps and discord ferverously.

Im usually the first person to be lenient, hell, I wasnt sure about noting you to begin with, and asked other online staff whether it was the right call or not before I did.

I did my objective, and brought it to the shuttle, and put it on it to send to centcom. I was also making a bunch of food using soy/the carrots, and had the counter full for the most part. For some reason, my objective still failed despite the fact I put the 7 pots of stewed soy on the shuttle.

I'm simply arguing the wording of the note, because if someone looked at it who wasn't online they would presume that I solely fucked around as the Chef and did absolutely nothing. I had been in/out of chemistry prior approx 4ish times, and saw that incident first hand. I grabbed and tabled them to strip them of the lube, AND the stolen ID, and ensured they didn't run while security came.

Also, the moment I saw them making the grenades, I called security. That was when they stripped the SSD chemist's ID card and tried to bolt, that was idle inside chemistry.

[Raeschen]

denying this for now.