Citadel Community

BYOND Name: fleetgothic

Reason Banned: Orange slime detonating

Admin who banned:  zeronetalpha

Length Banned: Perma

Appeal Reason: Alright, I'll be frank with you. Yes, this is a rp server. I understand that there are rules for everything. But in the ban statement, the admin didn't talk about the whole scene, making me seem like a griefer. I'll start with what happened. My character is xenophobic. He does not like aliens, and he found a naga who hates humans. Naturally, they'd get into a fight. So, after my character was thrown down a flight of stairs multiple times, he asked for some phoron, and proceeded to get it. The naga aimed the rifle at my character, and shot him multiple times with lethal rounds, using an advanced energy gun. My character, in crit, and clearly having lost it, proceeded to try to burn the naga. The admin made the slime core disappear, and boinked me for it. Alright, maybe that's a bit too much.  Bombs are deadly. But the admin gave the excuse, "don't bomb co-workers". So shooting and almost killing them is fine, but my character can't fight back? I was a bit pissed at this, and left. I mean, there's no reason to argue about that. And the admin DID admit to knowing about the shooting logs, but didn't say anything, telling me to ahelp it. So, seeing his quick reaction, he was most likely watching the situation. Why didn't he stop the naga, but he stopped my character?

Reason Banned: Attempted to use and orange slime core (Which explodes into a massive fireball) to kill co-workers on extended. The only reason it was not successful was due to quick admin intervention. This was originally going to be just a jobban from Xenobiologist, but the offender logged out in the middle of interrogation. Toxic player.
Rules cited in this ban:

Rule one, Do not Grief, Section 4. Do not intentionally cause damage to the station, machines, or other structures/objects for no reason.

Rule Eight, No Self-Antagging, Section 1. Murder, attempted murder, mutiny, rioting, theft of a restricted weapon, breaking and entering, sabotage, and grand theft are all considered to be self-antagging. (Attempted Murder)

We don't even allow revenge killings on the main server, much less the roleplay server.

This isn't your first rodeo, you consistently try and pick fights with the crew.

That Naga that hates humans? Well, from what they've explained from the situation the story goes somewhat like this; You had been warned not to try and take stuff from the RND lab, yet you did anyways. They used the auto-targeting feature of an AEG to try and shoot you with stun rounds and panicked when trying to turn off the auto-targeting and accidentally switched the gun to lethals. A total of 3 lethal shots were fired.

I saw the orange slime core get thrown after you primed it to explode into a cloud of death and deleted it. If nothing else, this is drastic overescallation. If you had a problem with the Naga accidentally using lethals, you should have adminhelped it instead of going to use vigilantism on the Naga.

One more thing, there were also other players in that room that you threw the slime core into. If it HADN'T been deleted, you would have killed at least 2 other innocent players in your ill-fated attempt at revenge.

This ban will stay in effect until more staff weigh in.

I would like to say that xenobiology has access to RnD, and most of science. So that was kind of untrue. In addition, I've been using VORE station code for around a year now, and you can't really mistake auto targeting and switching modes. The two buttons are far apart.

You had been picking fights with the Naga that was working in the R&D lab, they told you to go away and leave them alone and you continued to push the issue, using the access you had to go in and do what they had said not to, take materials.

As I believe, the naga does not own the place. Please stop confusing IC problems with OOC problems. What is the real issue here? Notice how I'm trying to focus on solving something with a OC problem, rather than an IC problem that would've been solved with: My character being fired, even possibly kicked off the station. But you interrupted that flow. And I'd like to add, I was asking for phoron. Such a task isn't a huge problem.

The OOC problem is that there are rules to the station that it is more than possible to break IC and OOC. Your actions would have caused severe damage to the entire research department if left unchecked. On top of that, if you had not have logged off in the middle of the investigation, you would have merely been let off with a permanent job-ban. The fact that you logged off automatically increased the severity of the issue.

Ah, there's the problem. Well, if that is the case, if unbanned, I will cease those problems. I understand what you demand from me, and I will deliver. Again, this isn't my server, and I will follow the rules. I would only request, not demand, that I still have the job of xenobiologist. It's my favorite role, and as long as I am on the station, you will not see another issue. I promise.

I've gotta agree, even if they shot lethals at you intentionally the appropriate thing would have been to Ahelp them instead of going mad bomber without any consideration for the players not even remotely involved in the situation to begin with. And even without ahelping the IC course would be calling security instead, again; not going mad bomber.

Logging off mid investigation is also a way of getting a slam dunk server ban, at the same time, you're asking to keep the job you would have been banned from regardless. Sorry, but that's not happening.

Well, then I don't see how this would be any sort of a HRP server. I'm being banned from xeno, sure. Do that. But I have to adminhelp every little bad thing that happens to my character? Not to be offensive, but no wonder why I see so many one dimensional characters on this server. I mean, come on. Bad things happen. Which is why I would not adminhelp anything bad happening to my character, because it develops him. So, by that logic, any events dealing with sec is not cool, because my character, an innocent guy is being involved. I'm not being too mad, and I apologize for the late reply, as I was VERY busy, but uh... It kinda makes this station look like a hugbox. I'm not going to lie. I've been roleplaying for around 10 years, and very few places didn't allow for real character development. I've been keeping a file on my computer, a sort of doc for my character, which I made for HRP circumstances. Basically, for every event, I track how this character would react to certain individuals and environments. So, don't accuse me of going mad bomber. I simply followed how stressed this character would be. And come on. If you want to compare this to real like actions, such as "You wouldn't shoot your coworkers", youtube was shot up because someone's video wasn't posted. I mean, I'd expect, as I am stating once more, a likely character ban for that action, such as him getting arrested and permaed. But the main reason why I was upset, is because the admin interrupted the flow of rp.

And just adding this in, don't accuse me of being toxic. I've been very reasonable with players, and you are accusing me of starting fights. ICly, my character is. OOCly, I'm chill. Learn to separate characters from real people. The only problem I had, was when you interrupted me. They reason I left, was that I thought I was going to start a fight or something for real, and I'd rather be calm dealing with the admins. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I'm toxic.